We often field the question…”I like the Wirehaired Pointing Griffon and the Pudelpointer. How would you describe one vs. the other?”

Well this is a tough question in that when you compare individual dogs there can be a vast array of variability.. But we can answer the question from a breed standard perspective – the meat and potatoes of each breed’s strengths and characteristics. Their personalities, however, are the ultimate variable. We believe personality is a key player in what makes a dog right for you.

Short answer: The Wirehaired Pointing Griffon is a house dog who likes to hunt. The Pudelpointer is a hunting dog who likes to live in the house.

Long answer: As a whole, both breeds have excellent hunting skills in pointing, tracking, retrieving (on land, in water, and harsh conditions) and physical strength/endurance. In our opinion, the Pudelpointer seems to have a stronger prey drive and is less apt to emotionally tire from a task. They are keen to take tasks to the next level of difficulty and are very attentive to the commands of the handler. Pudelpointers have a sharp desire to aggressively work the task, but at the same time they are patient and calculated. They observe, think, and learn from others in a way that makes them special. They easily learn the mantra of: do-what-I’m-told versus do-what-I-want. They are patient yet determined – a very lovely combination.

Both breeds are easy-keepers in the household and make excellent family dogs. But the thoughtfulness of the Pudelpointer builds a different kind of bond and their loyalty shines through. They seem to know when to shut off the work, be calm and relax (until a squirrel or a mail carrier presents). The WPG and the PP tend to have the same physical activity requirements to satisfy their basic needs, but the Pudelpointer is always willing to get up and do more if asked. In a sense, they are on-call for hunting work 24/7, but not at the expense of being insatiable. In addition, Pudelpointers seem able to handle adversity somewhat better than WPGs (discomfort, significant challenge, heavy-handedness). In that sense we feel they have a little more emotional grit and less neediness. That said, these points are heavily influenced by the fine tuning of behavioral genetics and how a puppy is raised. There is a lot one can do to foster or squelch certain features of attitude.

In short, it’s hard to know which dog is perfect for you until you’ve actually spent a significant period of time with one. We tend to suggest a PP to prospective adopters who spend a large part of the year hunting and whose main concern is having a dog who will be willing to keep up with those hefty demands. That said, they can also be a great choice for a recreational hunter or outdoorsman (or woman) looking for a hard core excercise partner. You will not enjoy your PP, nor will they enjoy you if you have no yard, begin traveling a lot for work, and feel that the ideal weekend is sitting on the couch binge-watching Game of Thrones.

Bonus features:

  • Pudelpointers are a non-shedding breed. The adjacent image details all there was to show for Pearl & Turk’s last lather & shine.
  • Less greasy
  • Less skin/coat related odor (except after rolling in a dead carcass)
  • Less sweeping/vacuuming
  • Less loose dog hair to irritate anyone allergic to animal dander
  • No trimming or grooming required, just occasional baths when dirty
  • Overall lower propensity for dermatitis conditions including skin allergy/hot spots.

Pudelpointer Links:

NAVHDA – North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association

American Kennel Club (AKC) Pudelpointer page

American Pudelpointer Alliance (Breeder’s club)

Gun Dog Magazine

Breeding & Training the Versatile Hunting Dog (Book by Bob Farris of Cedarwoods Kennels)

Breed Standard & Info (Adapted from AKC)

COUNTRY OF ORIGIN : Germany. UTILIZATION : Versatile working gundog with all the aptitudes required for the breed, for all kinds of work in the fields, in the woods and in the water. FCI-CLASSIFICATION : Group 7 Pointing Dogs. Section 1.1 Continental Pointing Dogs. With Working Trial. BRIEF HISTORICAL SUMMARY : The Pudelpointer is a rough coated pointing dog that originates genetically from two breeds, the Poodle and the Pointer, and that has come into being completely isolated from other pointing breeds. Although the Poodle has only been used for creating the foundation breeding stock its characteristics have been preserved till today. In combination with the extraordinary abilities of the Pointer in the fields, its fine scent and its far seeking nose, its fast and wide ranging search and its taut pointing, a versatile, genetically sound and healthy working gundog has emerged, corresponding to the requirements for hunting. The country of origin attaches special significance to the state of health of the Pudelpointer with special emphasis on the prevention of hip dysplasia (HD) and epilepsy in the breed. GENERAL APPEARANCE : Ideally the conformation displays a Pointer of heavy type with not too long rough coat of dead leaf or black color protecting the whole body. BEHAVIOUR / TEMPERAMENT : Neither shy nor aggressive. Calm, self-controlled, even temperament with distinct hunting instinct, without game or gun shyness. GAIT / MOVEMENT : Harmonious, springy, with good reach and drive; far reaching strides, straight and parallel coming and going; with well upstanding posture. COAT : HAIR : Close, flat lying, hard rough coat of medium length with dense undercoat. Length of the top coat at the withers 4 – 6 cm. The head shows a beard and a wood shaving like forelock. The coat on the belly is close and dense. By its harshness and density the coat should provide as good a protection as possible against weather and injuries as possible. COLOR : Whole-coloured. • Brown. • Dead leaf colour. • Black. Small white markings are permitted. SIZE : Height at withers: Dogs: 60 to 68 cm. Bitches: 55 to 63 cm.